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45 Comments
ThatOneYoutuberFan
they could’ve AT LEAST hired a professional for those photoshopped pics..like were they even trying to hide it?? ??
beccadotelpy
Thanks for doing this video! Your pharma/science expertise is very valuable here.
Why are they basing a dose on a 120lb adult when a 120lb adult generally doesn't need to lose weight?
Is everyone who is overweight leptin resistant? Isn't having leptin that's too low also a problem? This product is a mess.
Chantelle Wilson
A lot of animals metabolize medication differently that’s why dogs can’t take Advil, yet dogs can have 1 mg per pound of Benadryl if I eat that many milligrams of Benadryl per my body weight I’d never wake up.
Blossom Entrails
I'm 24 minutes in and maybe this is a nitpick but I feel like it speaks to how these types see fat people that the presentation says "OBESE and women" like…obese is a noun?
Sam Gallahan
Listening to her explain thyroid physiology completely wrong made me cringe so bad ?
Sam Gallahan
Am I stupid or how did the control group “lose” more pounds in fat than pounds they lost in total lmfao.
Marija M
This is so weird, when you bring experts and just introduce them as Lorna and Jim 😀
Blossom Entrails
It's funny because they might reply "well big pharma doesn't want something that works this well they want you to stay overweight so you'll keep buying drugs" as if they dont ALSO want people to stay overweight and insecure about it so they'll buy their products, using the usual mlm tactics to keep them in when it doesn't fucking work!
Marija M
Seems that Lorna is Lorna Vanderhaeghe. She has a sketchy line of supplements, and… multiple lawsuits against her. Who could have suspected?
Elena IllyDragonfly
That's way the huns talk very vaguely. As soon they start pretending to be scientists the real experts rip them a new one. I'm stil internally screaming at the part about treating obese children like not obese adults. facepalm
everylaurenislemons
Looked up DEXA scan… literally nowhere online does it says it can be used to measure weight loss. It just measures bone density. Adding this here in case anyone wanted more information/to know how DEXA is spelled
Jaina Miller
Thyroid issues are running rampant in women, it's hard to get a diagnosis. I had graves disease when I was a teenager and took radioactive iodine. Well I never went back to get checked. At 32, our 4th and last baby my thyroid went haywire and swung the other way. I kept going to the for over 4 years cause I could feel something in my neck and I kept getting more and more symptoms, like hair loss and not being able to get warm and super dry skin. Anyways, I went to the gyno cause my aunt was now irregular and she was coming to visit every 15 days and the gyno told me I had hashimotos, she even sent the doctor over a thing and so when I went to go check up with him, he laughed at me, told me I had a fat neck and wrote me a referral to a psychiatrist instead of doing just a simple CT ( and y'all I must have seen 3 or 4 dozen general practitioners and they have no clue when they look at thyroid levels and you have to specify that you want a thyroid panel or else they will just run a TSH, and even then they have no clue on the numbers).
I finally found a doctor to take me seriously and ordered a CT. I went in for a scan on Monday and Wednesday I was getting a call from a ENT surgeon asking me to come in and I went to see him that following Monday, he said you have a 6.7cm mass in your neck and dropping into your chest. He got a chest surgeon just in case he couldn't pull it all out of my neck (which he did, thank God I didn't have to have my chest cracked open). It came back benign, thank you God.
Point of the story is most GPs don't know and it's hard to get a thyroid diagnosis because of it. So keep fighting and looking for a doctor who will take you seriously and be part of your health team.
cissi168
Kinda sounds like they noticed there was no difference after 4 weeks and decided to just pull the measuring tape a little tighter on week 8.
Eva & Flint Ironstag
I'm miserable over the record high temps today, but a new Mack Attack video makes life a bit better.
Ro Faulkner
Ma'am please don't give weight loss supplements to children holy shit. Negative medical side effects aside that's how you get children hooked on diet culture which is kind of a bad thing to do
Stephanie Lynn
The data visualization in this presentation makes me want to scream. The graphs are terrible. The slides with just number comparisons are inconsistent and terrible. The wall of words of multiple slides is bad. They should feel bad.
Eva & Flint Ironstag
I cannot believe the certainty with which this "scientist" is making claims based on a worthless "study" of 22 people.
zinatarata
22 people for 8 weeks are just so silly. I get it if it was an initial study just to see if it was worth spending more money on a larger study, but it clearly was not since they never did one. 11 people in each group means that just one or two people could affect the group results in a huge way.
Colleen
37:13 That cozy wave of comfort and appeasement that overcomes you when someone hands you a product and says "the ingredients are incredibly safe!"…
Edit: And then repeats it 45 more times…
Why so incredible, Lorna? Huh?
L y
YAAAY a MackAttack! I SO needed this this evening!
ktgator
"This product obviously knows whether you're underweight or not. It only targets fat for people who are fat!"
April Rants
So basically what she saying is based on those results, without knowing the standard deviation because she conveniently left that part out, there was no significantly notable statistical difference in weight loss and lost inches between a placebo and the product she’s trying to sell us right? Am I understanding this correctly? It’s total BS?
April Rants
I do not understand why you don’t have more subscribers.
Valerie W
the bikini before and after… she didn't even bother to retie the bow in the back of the top so it looks like time passed ?
Ola Stawińska
That's the great point, that if those mlm products were soo effective, as they claim, it would be already bought by some pharmaceutical company. I didnt thought of that before.
Emily Violet Marie
Love you mack!
Lindsay Peltz
49:43 I like how she didn’t answer the drug interaction question with “consult your doctor or pharmacist” but “just take them a few hours apart it’s probably fine.”
Josephine Henry
Lectin pectin up ya rectum sounded like a bunch of gobbledy to me
Stephanie Hell
Omg Mack!! The thumbnail had me. ? ?
Stephanie Hell
One for the algorithm
L y
This is a nice development in the antiMLM world — outing companies before they even get off the ground
alysebell1
Seriously. When she said that the only people that she wouldn’t recommend this for was people on feeding tubes I got mad. So people with EDs you’d be perfectly fine downing your BS supplements? The fact that her scientific opinion can be bought so easily is disgusting.
Emory
On top of all of this. Awakened is also minting NFTs ??
TheExFrenchie
I clicked so fast!
Pharmageddon
This woman reading off these research results sounds exactly like a pharmacy student presenting their first journal club. Like she read the study once and has no idea what was actually happening.
Pharmageddon
As a pediatric pharmacist, 47:52 has me furiously shaking my head. NO THAT IS NOT HOW THIS WORKS.
Felicity Holder
It's just plain fraud. Lying, photoshopping and doctoring studies. Also, in the zoom that Erin Bies and Julie Jo covered on live the hun did say they were looking at a line for children AND PETS! Enormous YIKES!
Lorie LovesBooks
Their name breaks down to A wak (wacked) end. Are we sure they aren't in the mafia, I feel threatened.
Lorie LovesBooks
So you can only be fat as a woman if you are pregnant, yeah, she sounds delightful and oh so helpful. ?
adriennepressnall
Mack, I love your content so much, I click instantly everytime i see you upload. I have one criticism: the eyes on the thumbnail. I know it's meant to represent yknow, their severe lack of understanding of basic science, but it comes off as ableist???? I'm getting my Master's in special education and it has really opened my eyes to the subtle ways people mock the disabled, even unintentionally. I like the clown nose tho.
Tracy Bryant
New to your channel I love your content!
Helen R
Why did Jim even turn up? So great to have response from clinically trained people.
Yes, for all the supplements in mlms if it worked would be marketed by normal pharmacy / medical routes.
Helen R
Tested on 11 woman aged average 37 for 8 weeks none pregnant or nursing – claims that perfect long-term and for menopausal women, and nursing mums, oh and if on other meds, and children, even pets…
We only have these ingredients, lists 2 categories, viscous polysaccharides and chelated fatty acids – but which ones?
Helen R
When does she get around to admitting that the research is by the previous company that they brought product rights to and renamed. This company has not invested in even simple research, yet gloats as if they have.
Sonya @muttstew
Dontcha love how these presentations are just them reading the power point slides to everyone? Like it could have been an email. If I want someone to read to me I'll go to story time at the local library.