Social Nootropics: Charisma in a Pill?
A blog post on this subject: http://www.thebioneer.com/social-nootropics/
Nootropics are ‘smart drugs’ that can boost concentration, memory and creativity. But can they enhance your social skills? In theory, that would probably be more likely to help you achieve more than just improving your working memory… There are those who think this can work but ultimately it boils down to mild anti-anxiety effects from GABAergics and some slight mood boosting. I don’t really recommend either unless your doctor has prescribed them for actual social anxiety…
And really, do you want to change your personality with medication? You’re supposed to say no at this point… There are better things you can do – such as using CBT to overcome anxiety.
But this is still a very interesting subject and there’s much to discuss. Is alcohol essentially a social nootropic? What’s the difference between alcohol and kava? Is kava a safer alternative to alcohol? How do salesmen and women use oxytocin to sell to us? Could you use atosiban to become a psychopath?
Hope you guys find this interesting!
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Hannes
6:10 this is EXACTLY what I experience with phenibut. It took me about 6 times taking it to accept that. I thought I'd get more charismatic, but I just got less engaged and engaging.
Brian Adler
Charisma has recently been shown to be highly correlated with the speed of thinking..so yeah, increasing Gaba is a really bad idea if your goal is charisma.
alex tongue
I have found nootropics ARE the answer for extra charisma etc.. After suffering from a lot of depression i could barely look people in the eye. Of course the only mainstream answer was alcohol (great i can talk to people), fast foward 6 years, 3 rehabs and 2 seizures i discovered nootropics! Nootropics have really saved me. I don't take any of the crappy SSRI'S the docs try and shove down my throat (as none of them work on your dopamine).Noots that have really brought me out of my shell are phenibut (be carefull with this one), modafinal, Oxiracatam (not on i't own though, has to be staked with modafinal don't know whit but the synergy is awesome), Kratom (again, be careful) and colouracatam nice little anti depressant. I've wasted a lot of money on noots but it has been worth it. Now When i'm out walking my dog i have no problem talking to anyone. I'm a pretty happy chappy! I don't care much for the intelligence side of it (although that can be a bonus). I haven't worked for the last year due to my seizures but now i have been given a loan for my own company and i'm making the brave move to move to the South of France (i'm from the UK), note I do speak near fluent french so it's not such a brave move in that respect. If they banned noots all together and I couldn't get hold of them I would kill myself, seriously.
Dr. Ho Lee Phuk
Think you're confusing psychopath with sociopath.
aslanslipknot
I am very similar to you in social situations. I often find myself stumbling over words or generally just blanking out. I recently started experimenting with nootropics but after watching your video I'm beginning to change my mind, Very informative! Keep up the good work.
Aschwin Wesselius
The first step into getting into ease with other persons or awkward situations is recognize that the 'other' person is you. This means, we are all pretty much alike in every situation. The only thing that differs is the experience people already have in advantage. That's the point you already made in the video.
Next to it, if we are all pretty much alike, is to read how to be ahead of the 'game'. One book that is amazing: "How to win friends and influence people" by Dale Carnegie. It's old, but it is timeless. Hence, we are all the same, right, no matter which time we live in. This single book, changed my life as an introvert!
mr.mixleplix
Yes its called cocaine
D Murray
as a rule of thumb, what a pill gives you on the upside, is exactly what it takes from you in payment… it gives confidence that is what it will take, if it makes you sharp.. it will ultimately make you dull, if it makes you socially comfortable… it will make social solutions more difficult … the addictive potential in that area would be massive. Also, let's question the idea of people taking "drugs" to be better workers… in "normal" jobs… who does this really help? the individual, or the employer…
… phenibut could be the most risky… all the confidence of a few drinks, but still functional and focused, no one would know.. very like booze in a pill, with the upside of the booze, but not the downside … so an awkward person who could effective get the buzz of 4/5 drinks, but not show it except in being on top form, relaxed and chatty… it will make a socially awkward person much more charming.. and that has massive addiction potential… one day in on it, everyone thinks you are great and you feel great.. will you take it the next day? when now you will be more expected to be witty or chatty?
D Murray
good advice re CBT etc and personally handling stress
TheMacocko
1. You don't believe in the effects of nootropics but you believe in the law of attraction? (All credit lost)
2. Of course the effects are not going to be like Limitless!
3. This guy is talking out of his ass
TheMacocko
Oh, this is the guy that wrote that absolutely horrific article.
1. Your "complete guide" is far from complete
2. Many on the Nootropics you listed have been used in medicine for thousands of years with success.
3. Your information about some of the nootropics are inaccurate.
4. Generalization fallacy, as you are leaking all nootropics together in regaurds to risks
5. Your personal experience with a select few, does not license you as an expert
That said, somebody that could really benefit from a good nootropic is going to listen and believe your horseshit and miss out on something that could be a great benefit to them.
Aurélien Carnoy
Great question.Charisma: talk about what you are passionate about. Eventually you discover that you are passionate about being passionate. Subject don't matter, only the passion.If you have trouble finding your passion, you probably have a good amount of repressed passion, also known as anger. Give time and space to anger in a way that benefits all and you get passion. It us as beautiful as witnessing the big bang. Enjoy.
Aurélien Carnoy
And you have great charisma. 🙂
CopernicoTube
I was thinking about: can oxytocin be taked from an exogenous source? And if does, what happens?
Diarmuid Brady
The work you put in is a credit to yourself…..I can see how you are using this as CBT in a way I appreciate that
DMC
I've heard some good things about phenibut for SA instead of the booze.
Ben Steele
Nootropics are most effective in changing mentality and behavior when combined with other improvements in diet and lifestyle. I wouldn't look to nootropics to do all the work for you, but they sure can help immensely.
Peter Swindley
Oh really.
Looks for all the world you’re just saying that to defend your position.
Peter Swindley
Or you’re just damned ignorant and built the premise of this video on your assumption that it ‘must just be suggestible people watching a film’.
Actually do some thinking next time. We KNOW that GABA is important in anxiety, and that SERT must be involved to some degree in
socialanxiety.bish groundwork
Just take 5mg of dexamphetamine each morning…that willcover all bases.
Michael Mendez
Nofap
tregun7
I had tremendous results with phenibut. My only regret is I can't get it anymore.